Chassis Upgrade Recommendations

Funny, I meant “relocate”, but same same

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As far as I know, they don’t make indusrial fans this small.

Primary fan walls can be replaced with 120mm fans

Eg:

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Then NF-F12 industrialPPC-2000 PWM.

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Do you guys think it’s the right call to retire my current hardware and transfer everything over to all the super micro hardware? Even though it’s fairly old hardware?

What motherboard and cpus?

Supermicro X10drg-q and 2 xeon e5-2630

I’m running X10 for my primary NASes.

Lots of PCIe slots, 20 cores. 10 SATA ports, ECC memory, IPMI.

What’s not to like? I’d use the Supermicro.

V3 or v4 CPU? Doesn’t really matter. You can get 20 core CPUs on eBay for about 100USD.

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I’d add an Asus Hyper quad m.2 card :wink:

4 m.2 drives in one of your x16 slots.

(Check bios support for bifurcation)

And you’d want to update the bios and ipmi firmware. Especially the IPMI to make sure you have html5 kvm.

The IPMI will allow you to run some of the advanced fan control scripts.

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X10-series gear is fine. I wouldn’t recommend X9 or older, if only for the awful Java-based iKVM, but X10 and newer supports a HTML5-based remote console. She’ll be right, mate.

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I think OP meant the Asrock Board and 4670k.

@FLBuckeye For what it’s worth, the X10 generation Supermicro lower end boards use this same generation of chip. In case you are not familiar, similar to gaming Intel has the HEDT platform, in servers they have the “normal” boards and then the “real Xeons”. Yours is similar to a Xeon 1275v3

In other words, your current hardware is still somewhat valuable. It isn’t a fancy server with ECC and IPMI and all the bells and whistles, but from a performance perspective for SATA hard drives it’s still a home run and you probably won’t be in a situation where you’d see a storage bottleneck for gigabit networking

A backup server :wink:

Yeah, my understanding is OP scored a free X10 supermicro dual core workstation.

Lucky OP

(It’s better than my X10-SRi-F :stuck_out_tongue: )

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I’d be pretty careful re: what fans you use to replace stock fans. The current set has been engineered with a tremendous amount of pressure drop across the tightly-fitted hot swap bays in the front. Those drives may not stay cool enough if you start substituting less noisy fans that also will move less air.

The acid test is scrubs and resilvers. I unknowingly baked my older drives at 45*C+ during those operations in their own juices (older MiniXL) with some drives getting even hotter. I started adding more, and stronger fans but ultimately ditched the MiniXL case for a Lian Li Q26, which was superior in every way except the hot swap department.

The beauty of your dual CPU board is that if you discover it doesn’t have all the oomph you need, then replacing it is pretty trivial. In the meantime, you’ll have a better idea of what kind of a cpu setup you’ll need to get the job done.

One thing to look into is how good the PSU looks and whether it is so old to be a bronze or whatever. If it’s ancient, it might pay to upgrade to platinum or even Ti since sometimes those SM PSUs are quite inexpensive.

Best of luck.

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If it has 4 fans in the front wall like your picture, then it is not the “Super Quiet” (SQ) version of the chassis. With 3 fans, it could be SQ or not. Pull one of the fans in the wall. If it is a “San Ace 80 9G0812P1F03”, then it’s not the SQ version.

You can replace the fans with the SQ versions by searching on eBay for:

(FAN-0104L4,9S0812P4F051)
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This was my first thread on the new version of the forums and I hit my reply “cap” for the first 24 hours of a new account.

Over the weekend, I got truenas up and running on the CSE 747, and let it run in my living room for about 24 hours before I had enough of it. I spent most of yesterday fully converting a closest in my laundry room to my networking room by installing an outlet from my sub-panel, and routing all my ethernet for my Wifi APs, IP cams, WAN and ethernet for my PC to the closet. I had to relocate a litter box from this location so my cats are pissed, but my marriage is saved.

I’m currently running a windows vm for Blue Iris, plex, transmission, unifi, sonarr, jackett on it, and it seems like the hardware is still pretty overkill. The only thing I cant seem to get working is passing through the GPU to my VM so that I can use it for AI object recognition for blue iris.

I’ve also been running this NAS on a usb drive as my OS for 8+ years… probably time to move it over to a sata SSD.

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I’m not sure what else I would want to do on this NAS that would need more CPU power… but I’d love to hear what I could do on it for an excuse to upgrade :sweat_smile:

Checked yesterday dual Platinum grade PSUs. :sunglasses:

@kris @will you might want to consider this.

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Reply cap, huh… That is the opposite of what we want here :rofl:. We’ll get something in place to change it :slight_smile:

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the reply cap is in place when 3 or more (now upped to 5) comments are in the same thread. For better organization and lack of overflow, lets please use the edit feature.

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As others have already pointed out you can always replace the fans with the SQ version fans. As of course already forewarned this will impact cooling / static pressure. I believe the quiet fan should be part FAN-0074L4. Correct me if I’m wrong @nabsltd please.

However seeing how you got the hardware for free don’t discount replacing fans or getting creative. I’ve not seen the full tower style Supermicro cases in person but I would be surprised if you couldn’t take out the fan wall and drop in your own fans. Maybe doing so with a 3D print bracket to hold them in place. Adding airflow over the drives from the front could be something to consider as well.

There are definitely outside the box ways to approach noise and cooling. Obviously YMMY etc etc…

I’ve personally tinkered with plenty of rack mount chassis to get them to be quieter. There may be some current employees of iX who’ve done the same in their personal time. :wink:

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