TrueNAS 25.04.0 now available!

Does it do that?

If you do explicitly update a stopped App by itself, then that is your explicit decision…

Currently on Dragonfish. Is there any harm in leapfrogging direct to Fangtooth?

No VM concerns on my side.

Or is doing a clean install better due to the ZFS file change? All of my data is neatly backed up so its more of a whats better long term question.

Appreciate the support!

Electric Eels sets up the new apps system.
For best result you should update incrementally.

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Thanks IX put this helpful picture together. Should have checked here first.

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What they forgot …

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Yes, be suspicious of the dark side with all its free stuff:

  • Docker containers
  • Windows VMs
  • Open ZFS dedup and RAIDZ expansion
  • Security improvements (audit logging)
  • 50% performance improvements
  • GPU integrations for AI/Apps

Its clearly another step toward the singularity…

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I decided to do a fresh bare metal install for this reason. Too many learning mistakes creating nfs shares, smba, sandboxes, ludicrous hidden file locations on my software vdev, comically zany security issues due to my noobness when I installed truenas 5+ years ago, etc.

I’m doing it right after all these years frens!

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Dumb question. What GPU integrations.

I’m using the Ollama app, and it is saying there is no valid rocm installed. Radeon 6750XT. Am today doing something wrong?

No claim of every GPU. Good topic for the General channel… search Radeon 1st and see what comes up.

Ran the search and nothing comes up for either Radeon or rocm. Will try and post today and link to all the relevant discussions.

Thanks for the quick input.

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I found this:

It mentions an AMD card and rocm. It doesn’t say how it all works together and it was an issue in Immich, but it does hit some keywords at least.

Good luck.

Is there a place I can go to learn why I am no longer allowed to SSH into my server as root?

This is a pretty big change from previous versions of truenas for basically forever.

Was there a problem with this? I enable the SSH service, add “root” as a permitted login, it still does not let me log into my own server via WinSCP as root? This seems needlessly paranoid.

I need to delete some garbage stacks from dockge, and the only way I can do it is via shell / root.

Its a problem because dockge keeps telling me I already have a stack named tailscale running.

The reason I am having all these datasets is because when following this video installing Tailscale:

It generates an unrecoverable error called this:

services.tailscale.environment.[4]: unexpected type map[string]interface {}

Feel like I learning everything from scratch with this new system. I wouldn’t mind it if there was a place I could as to why “root” access is so bad when debugging a linux system. I don’t understand this at all.

None of this prevents you from using ssh to enter a shell and to work with superuser privileges (e.g. sudo -s). It’s just a detail about the handshake you use to get in.

I have no problems to login to my truenas as root via ssh

What do you mean by this exactly? Did you add “root” under Password Login Groups on the SSH service config? Root isn’t by default a member of a group called “root” so it would make sense that that wouldn’t work.

Also when you go to Credentials > Users and edit the root user is Disable Password not selected, the SSH key configured, and SSH password login enabled selected?

@jct is right that we recommend against logging in as root, and there will likely come a release when that is officially prohibited, but there are no changes in 25.04 to my knowledge that prevent you from doing so.

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Your use case does not necessitate logging in as root over ssh.
Use a normal admin user to ssh in and then type sudo -i to get a root shell.

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This is the way :point_up_2:

In general, allowing direct login as root user has been against SSH best practices for quite some time now. Nearly all mainstream systems leveraging ssh disable this behavior by default.

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Guess I am just a noob to Fangtooth. All previous versions of Truenas I could log in as root via ssh (winscp/putty) no problem. Thanks for the help.

Any incite as to the phantom dockge stacks? Deleted the files / bad compiles via root but still shows them there and cant use the names. Not the end of the world, I can still destroy the dataset and reinstall dockge from scratch.

Not sure why they still show up…

Best to start a new thread in General… there’s background and history that is needed. We need to find a Dockge expert. The goal of Apps is to remove that complexity … if its not needed.

SMB doesn’t work, even after following other people’s posts on changing the default settings, etc. reverted to 24.10.2 boot environment .only way to access the shares