TrueNAS 25.04.1 is now available!

[Captain_Morgan]

@dhenzler

It’s likely that I will dump Scale once again for failing to give me a smile. This is my fourth year trying Scale… Waste of time is my comment.

I reviewed your post. You are using unique HP RAID Controller (not recommended) that may need a linux driver.

Disks and VDEV

I’m running a HP DL380eG8 with six 3T SAS drives. The controller shown in the photo is an HPE Dynamic Smart Array B120i/B320i SAS RAID Controller. I use it because there is no RAID setup to do in hardware, and adding new drives or replacing drives that are failing doesn’t require any tricks. On my old faithful TrueNAS Core I get 120 MB/sec transfer rate using Filezilla when uploading fresh content. When I built the TrueNAS Scale 25.04.1 system… populating the content was done using either Fi…

In any case, it will need troubleshooting.

[neofusion]

Even just the name “Dynamic Smart Array” gives me the hebejebes in the context of ZFS…

[dhenzler]

Why do you say (not recommended) when HP made this controller specifically for the DL-380eG8 server. And states in their documentation that NO DRIVER IS REQUIRED. I suppose it could still function but not yield the same performance as BSD or Windows.

[dhenzler]

The B320i works great in BSD and in Linux (Proxmox) Just failed to get a driver automatically in TrueNAS… I blame the development team for this…
As a developer I would assume that users would put this on repurposed servers and not on home brew unknown systems.

[dan]

@dhenzler

HP made this controller specifically for the DL-380eG8

Right. And not for TrueNAS, or for ZFS more generally.

Do what you want, but don’t blame TrueNAS for your poor choice of hardware.

[dhenzler]

Well Dan… I sort of feel that the DL380eG8 came before TrueNAS Scale 25.04.1 and is a viable platform with features lacking in home built boxes.

[SmallBarky]

@dhenzler
Please stop trolling multiple threads

[dhenzler]

I’ve stopped… now it’s your turn.

[dhenzler]

Dan… Do you think it’s good software if the people who build it require specific hardware? I don’t !

[awasb]

Do you think it’s good hardware, that doesn’t allow you to choose firmware/firmware settings (e.g. IT mode)?

BTW.: It’s just ZFS philosophy … not TrueNAS.

https://openzfs.github.io/openzfs-docs/Performance%20and%20Tuning/Hardware.html#hardware-raid-controllers

[dan]

@dhenzler

Do you think it’s good software if the people who build it require specific hardware? I don’t !

You’re welcome to your opinion, ill-informed and misguided as it is.^[1] Hardware RAID controllers are not recommended for use with ZFS and never have been.^[2] That’s a long-standing recommendation, and it’s made very explicit in every hardware recommendations guide for TrueNAS, and for FreeNAS before it.^[3]

I couldn’t possibly care less how long that card has been on the market; that doesn’t make it any more suitable for use with ZFS (and thus with TrueNAS).

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1. Never mind the fact that literally every piece of software has hardware requirements–some more picky, some less so. It’s completely nonsensical to claim that that, in itself, makes it not “good software.” ↩︎

2. This is not unique to TrueNAS. See, e.g., the Proxmox docs: “Do not use ZFS on top of a hardware RAID controller”. ↩︎

3. See, e.g., Hardware Recommendations Guide | TrueNAS Community ↩︎

[Fleshmauler]

I’m still upset that I can’t run TrueNAS on my AMD Athlon XP. Personally I’m with you; I think it unacceptable that TrueNAS Devs mandate the use of 64 bit processors. Hardware ‘restrictions/recommendations’ are just a sign of lazyness.

/s

[dan]

@Fleshmauler

Athlon XP

Luxury. I’m PO’d it won’t run on my 286.

[Stux]

@dan

Luxury. I’m PO’d it won’t run on my 286.

Pah, my Apple II is just sitting there gathering dust.

[winnielinnie]

Don’t listen to @dan. He doesn’t want anyone to chase their dreams.

[dan]

In all seriousness, “follow your dreams” has to be the most idiotic career advice ever given. As Exhibit A, consider the work of notorious film director Ed Wood.

[dhenzler]

Jee’s Dan, your da Man…

But I don’t believe that I should need to go buy some new stuff when what I had worked great in a previous version… ala Microsoft BS… UPGRADE UPGRADE AND IT ONLY COSTS & COSTS & COSTS…

We can’t all be as super as you are Dan

[dan]

@dhenzler

I don’t believe that I should need to go buy some new stuff

I couldn’t care less what you believe. The facts are before you; ignore them at your peril.
*plonk*

[Captain_Morgan]

@dhenzler

But I don’t believe that I should need to go buy some new stuff when what I had worked great in a previous version… ala Microsoft BS… UPGRADE UPGRADE AND IT ONLY COSTS & COSTS & COSTS…

Please don’t insult other Community members who are pointing out facts.

You are welcome to be disgruntled with TrueNAS software and use different software. That is part of the the Open Storage creed we pursue.

The facts are:

1. TrueNAS does support a dizzying array of hardware from the last 20 years.

2. We don’t recommend RAID controllers. We don’t test them and we don’t know what nasty corner cases they may cause. We hate to lose user data. We do not preclude users from using them, but they must take responsibility

3. This RAID controller did function, but not perform with TrueNAS CE

4. As a user, you did not have the patience to diagnose the issues. That’s your perogative and many would do the same.

5. If you did find the issue (e.g TrueNAS didn’t support the RAID driver), we may have been reluctant to fix it because its a RAID controller.

6. So, the advice to change the HBA hardware is the right advice.

7. But, you are welcome to try other software (even if they have the same recommendations).

Apologies to @dan for taking arrows that belong to TrueNAS.

I’d suggest further complaints be directed to me via private message.