SSK external SSD died after 2m 11d - is it normal?

Hi all,

SSD died on me today. I had a spare. Reinstalled 25.04.1, restored configuration backup with some troubles: for some reason latest backup did not restore the pool, but the one from June did…

In any case, re-setup report test from @dak180 , including backup in email to be on the safe side…

So the question is:
was it really a bad batch SSD or could something be wrong in my setup? What is others experience with external SSD connected to USB ports?

Is there a best practice for running scale off external SSD (settings and/or hardware)?
The latest SMART report for the SSD did not show any issues, I don’t really know why it suddenly died…

Ps. All 6 ports of MB are used for raid, so I have to go for external SSD.

PPs. This was easier with CORE, but I know it has to do with OS differences…

SSD can die like that, Is annoyng but possible.
I have run my system with an USB-sata adapter for months without any issue, Is not optimal but viable.
If you have a free pciex slot, and your motherboard Is not too old, you have also the option to buy a cheap passive PCI-EX-NVME adapter and boot from It; 16gb Optane/pseudo Optane are cheap and (in my experience) reliable

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thank you for the tip on PCEe - NVME adaptor. I did not know that they exist.

If I understand correctly, you use USB enclosure for 2.5" drives?
Do you set “System Data Set Pool” to USB drive or keep it on HDDs ?

I was using an adapter without enclosure:

My mainboard Is equipped with an internal USB port, so the disk was placed internally and benefited of the airflow.
I placed system dataset pool into the boot pool too (still using the same pattern now that i have the NVME adapter).

Regarding the NVME adapter, i can say that im using It in a pciex slot with 1 lane without having performance issue (so i can use the same adapter with 2 NVME dedicated to the app pool and benefit of full speed there).
Don’t know what your system Is, but under Intel gen 6 the capability to boot from NVME Is granted only to few motherboard

thanks, such adapter is even better than an enclosure. I also have a spare USB on the MB.

The MB is ASRock E3C236D2I. I have found an old thread suggesting that one could use NVME on it PCIe NVMe SSD for ASRock E3C226D2I Build | TrueNAS Community

EDIT: if anyone will came across this topic, M2 slot in the MB itself can not be used as per documentation: “The M.2 slot (M2_1) is shared with the SATA_0 connector. When M2_1 is populated with a M.2 SATA3 module, SATA_0 is disabled.”

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Pretty similar to my backup system mainboard, and with the same limitation of my main mainboard (the msata -not m2- slot shared with a SATA port).
Now I don’t want to put too much on my plate, but seems that your motherboard supports bifurcation, you should can add 3 NVME in total with a passive riser

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For a gen 3 NVMe, even a single lane application is about double the speed then a sATA interface (3500MB/sec/4 vs 550MB/sec)

yep, for me this setup is the best (poor xD) choice on almost every point.
Also to mention, not that usb sata adapters are unreliable… but passive riser for pci-ex slot are objectively simpler - just a pass through -, despite the usb adapters that afaik have a bridge controller inside them

Yepp, USB to sATA only is (might be) a viable (?) solution, if you only use a single drive.
(belive me, I tried it. 6 HDD-s on USB to sATA are a recipe for disaster.)

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Maybe I don’t understand something about PCIe slots.
I bought an NVME to PCIe adaptor (Sabrent EC-PCIE), installed the drive (Transcend 128Gb, M.2 2280 Gen3 x4). The adapter docs say: PCIe x16/x8/x4, logical interface / PCIe Lanes: x4; Compatible Sizes (of drives): 2230 / 2242 / 2260 / 2280. “It will not fit PCIe x1 slot”.

On the MB documentation all is written is:

PCIE7 (PCIe 3.0 x16 slot). Mechanical/Electrical: x16.

should work, AFAICT…

It is possible I did not install it correctly (not fully), but otherwise I still don’t understand why I can’t even boot with this adapter installed… I don’t have a monitor to check, but when it’s in, the ASRock remote is not working either, so I can’t see what’s actually being printed on screen (if anything)

EDIT: Tried again, now at least can boot from USB and see NVME disk… will try to re-install on it…

everything finally worked.

If anyone came across this thread:

  • be sure to change preferred HDD drive in bios. UI is a bit confusing as it allows to select 3 boot options, and one of them is hard drive. Which one, is set in a different option
  • for some reason I had some issues with remote/IPMI. So for installation of TrueNas and first boot, I connected LAN cable to a dedicated IPMI port. Once everything looked good, I re-connected to the usual one in order to access TrueNas UI and restore config file.

p.s. and I did move system data set to the boot pool

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