Supermicro X12SCZ-F and QNAP TL-D800S external Enclousure

Frunse · September 21, 2024, 9:18am

New Build for TrueNAS Core or Scale with Supermicro X12SCZ-F and QNAP TL-D800S external Enclousure.

The Shuttle Projekt with the SW580R8 Fails because the Motherboard dies after 2 day of running and switching it off and next day switching it on but didn’t work anymore !!!

So i need to build an new NAS Head for the QNAP 8Bay Enclousure.

I found the Supermicro X12SCZ-F and i wish i bougt it earlier instead of the Shuttle Barebone Cost the same but without Case and PSU LOL.

The Hardware i need to use for now is:

Jonsbo C6 (aviable)

be quiet! SFX Power 450Watt PSU (ordered, Adapter Plate needed for Jonsbo C6)
Supermicro X12SCZ-F (ordered)
64GB Kingston FURY Beast DDR4-3200 DIMM CL16 Dual Kit (aviable)
32GB Vangence DDR4-3200 Dual Kit (aviable)
(Max 128GB Possible)
Intel Core i5 11600K 6x 3.90GHz So.1200 125W TPD (aviable)
Noctua NH-U9S CPU-Cooler (aviable)
Mellanox ConnectX-4 Dual Port 25GB Card (Refurbished)
Qnap SAS Controller or LSI SAS 9207-8e (Refurbished, with P20 Firmware)
2 250GB Samsung SSD 980 M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 3D-NAND TLC (aviable)
(One for Boot and one as Read Cache Mirror probably not sure yet)
Also try to used this (it worked @ Shuttle Barebone)!!!

QNAP QM2-4S-240 PCIe x4 Card with (aviable)
4x 500GB Samsung EVO 860 M2 SSD (2x Mirror as a fast working Data Pool)

QNAP TL-D800S Hardware (aviable):
8x 6TB Seagate Iron Wulf Drives as a Storage Pool

Til now i had no luck to install TrueNAS Scale on the earlier Hardware got the Black Screen Bug or last time on Shuttle Hardware an freeze with the Massage “Initialize RAM Drive or so” after hitting Install from USB Device.

So i was able to instal TrueNAS Core on my QNAP TS-873 NAS Hardware and the Shuttle Barebone.

But i will try it again on that Supermicro Board let se if this will work

I use only SMB Shares for Windows 10 Clients so may be i don’t realy need Cache drives not sure for now will check this.

Stay tuned!

Frunse · September 27, 2024, 2:41pm

Now comes the Build:

And yes nothing without Problems like always!!!

The Case USB3 Front Connector dont fit to the Supermicro Board.
Also the F-Pannel Connector, has only Power Button and Power LED so no big deal to making new Connectors. (RM 2,54mm)

And i found out that my Processor seems to be dead and not the Shuttle Motherboard, on Supermicro Board the Fans goes on but no Picture on Screen also not with an GT730 Nvidia Card

New Processor is on the way this time i got an I5 11500 (65TPD) for 130€
For an Nas Server enough Power i guess
If the New Processor works i get my money back for the dead I5 11600K (125TPD)

Stux · September 27, 2024, 3:28pm

You will need an adapter, like this:

the Node 304 has USB3 ports on its front panel, but the X10SDV only has USB2 headers on the motherboard (the back ports are USB3). In order to connect the front ports to the motherboard you will need a USB3 to USB2 motherboard header adapter. Available for a few bucks off ebay

From my Node 304/X10SDV Build Report

BTW, nice motherboard. Following.

Frunse · September 28, 2024, 9:51am

Thank You, i will get me such an adaptor by sure

If i get the Scale Version installed youre Fan Control Script become handy

Btw, Nice Fractal enclousure you use, if i didnt had the external QNAP Enclousure already i gues i wiould also need to use an Enclousure with HHD Bays.

But for an Head Server only i like the Jonsbo C6.
I didn’t have place for an big Server Rack so no 19" for me.

Yes the board is realy nice, i needed an Board that fit in a small Enclousure with at least 2 X4 Slots.

Now i have 3 Slots so if i need more HDD’s i can add an second QNAP Enclousure instead off QNAP QM2-4S-240 PCIe x4 Card or even using bigger M2 SSD’s for my Pool with Projekt Data i working on (CAD, PCB and 3D Print files and so on)

And using up to 4 internal SATA SSD Drives as an Cache Drive if it become usefull (need to test it) Plenty of possibilities

Ordered this Adapters:

One Slotpanel still free to use on the Back one 10GBP/s Port for my Qnap 4 Bay USB 3 Enclousure

Still waiting for the CPU

Frunse · September 30, 2024, 10:22am

small Correction.
ordered this CPU not I5 11500:
Intel Core i5 11600 6x 2.80GHz So.1200 TRAY without K option

And the right Adapter for that Board is this:

Or better this (But not aviable at the Moment)

Only this Typ - E Socket gives you 20GBps (2x USB 3.2) all other onboard Sockets ar only USB 2.0 capabel

Be aware!!!

Frunse · October 4, 2024, 9:34am

Got my CPU today but no luck Screen on DVI and on SUB-D Video Out are black no Life sign from Board!!!

Changed to other RAM also no Luck.

Any ideas Bord all Jumpers on Default like it was on Ariving.

Heartbead LED working like Normal, Blinking!

Clueless for now.

Frunse · October 4, 2024, 11:48am

Thats crazzy i can’t get the Supermicro Board running!

But i was testing all componennts again with the Shuttle Barbone and now both CPU’s (11600 and 11600K) running there, also the Ram and the Powersupply but not with the Supermicro Board.

The only thing i did was i removed the CMOS Battery from Shuttle Board for some minutes and then it runs.

Did the same now with the Supermicro and still no Luck.

Realy Strange. Will now play around with all the Jumpers on the Supermicro may be i found the reason there or the Board has a big Problem.

May be need an newer Bios for the 11600 CPU but i didn’t have any other CPU’s for flashing

I am Stuck i guess

Frunse · October 4, 2024, 1:32pm

So the Shuttle Barbone is Online with TRUENAS Core again all my Data there again, at least one Device works again.

Now i need to get this crazy Supermicro Board running, still no clue why it won’t Start

etorix · October 4, 2024, 1:37pm

So the CPU and RAM are good. You don’t need a CPU to flash the X12SCZ-F, as the BMC can do that. If you can’t get to the BMC either, the board is dead: Get a replacement.

Frunse · October 4, 2024, 1:51pm

Hi yes it seems the Board is dead there is the VGA Out i gues at least this need to show the BMC stuff right?

There i don’t get a signal also but the 2500 Controller shows the Heartbead LED blinking normal… realy strange.

It is my first Supermicro Board also first Board with BMC

Need to read how this need to work. @ Monday i send it Back with CPU and RAM, The Seller will Check it than.

BTW the Shuttle Barbone Truenas Server connected with 10GBit Etherned runs fast (Need to buy me an 25GB Switch for the full Performance)

Kopied an Video with 1,5 GB to an Win10 Client and back and got 989MB/s in both directions so i am happy

Frunse · October 6, 2024, 8:40am

Supermicro X12SCZ-F is dead tested this with this Procedure:

Starting with no Ram didn’t make any Beeps so no Error Code at all

Only CPU installed nothing else, Power LED don’t lit also on the Board.
Only the Heartbead LED of 2500 BMC

So it goes back to seller next day.

Frunse · October 21, 2024, 10:07am

So my Shuttle Barebone works great now with TrueNAS Core!

Need to rethink what to do with the other Parts.
Jonsbo C6 Enclousure
Intel Core i5 11600
be quiet! SFX Power 450Watt PSU

For the Supermicro X12SCZ-F i take Money back!

On that Shuttle SW580R8 is the newer Chipset Intel W580E
instead off Intel® W480E on Supermicro

So Optane Memmory support and 8 DMI Lanes (W580E) instead of 4 (W480E)
Also Memmory Overclocking on W580E but i use the Default Values for Stability on NAS

Frunse · November 6, 2024, 6:43pm

So did some Performance tests with 10GB Switch in Comparing to 25GB Switch
NetworkCard used on Computer and on Shuttle Barebone (TrueNAS Core)
Mellanox ConnectX-4 Dual Port 25GB Card (Refurbished)

On the left Picture i used an TP-Link SG3428X Switch 10GB LWL Ports
On the right Picture i used an Mikrotik CRS510-8XS-2XQ-IN (Bridge Mode) 25GB LWL Ports

So write Performance has some nice Bandwith gain but Read Performance not realy i guess depends on TrueNAS Config with Caches and so on probably.
Need to made more Configuration tests.

Shuttle Barebone used 32GB Ram @ the Moment but i have 64GB more to put in

Any idea what kind of Software is the Best for Speed Benchmarking a NAS over Ethernet on Windows 10

Intel Nas Performance toolkit may be? But its old already.