I have the latest TrueNas Scale Dragonfish instance (24.04.1.1) that i have been using and upgrading for the past couple of years, have been using Apps most of that time, I currently have 5 or 6 (mixture of Truenas and Trucharts). I recently realised none of the Apps had wanted to upgrade for quite some time. Finally got around to checking and i can see that newer versions are available in the catalogues but im not sure why they dont see updates are available.
For example qBittorrent
Available in the TrueNAS Catalog - App Version: 4.6.5 & Chart Version: 1.2.12
Installed and working fine - TrueNAS Catalog - App Version: 4.5.2 & Chart Version: 1.0.11
The rest of the apps are Truecharts which i know arenât supported but i believe the problem lies within my Truenas Scale setup.
Iâve tried refreshing the catalogues and while it shows me that they contain newer apps, none of my apps show as having updates available.
Any thoughts?
Edit - Just to clarify, All apps show as running, using RAM, have network traffic and are functioning just fine, they just show as up to date but they are not.
Just one question: Is the DNS/gateway set up correctly in the âNetworkâ tab?
Once it happened to me that for some reason the DNS and gateway settings has simply disappeared, and the same happened to me.
I also have this problem. None of my installed apps for Truenas or Truecharts are updating.
I have confirmed this with the installed versions and their online versions. I am a couple of versions behind.
None of my apps is showing as requiring any updates, but if I connect with the apps like Plex, they are all stating that there are upgrades available?? Which I confirm with the online versions.
I can manually refresh the catalogues without a problem, and no changes have been made to my network or DNS settings.
I can pull and install new apps from any catalogue, but I am not getting any updates.
I am running:
Dragonfish-24.04.1.1
To further explain
Here is the Catalogue version of my Plex App showing on my system.
Youâre using the truecharts version, and since truecharts stopped support for truenas since the announcement of iX to remove kubernetes in the next big release in oktober, you wonât get any updates for truecharts apps anymore.
Truecharts is working on a migration path for ppl who want to keep using their charts, but it involves a vm with talos linux. If you want to stick with truecharts youâd have to migrate to that vm, for the native apps system of scale there wont be any updates.
Or migrate your apps to truenas or custom apps, since iX said that those will migrate to the new docker and docker-compose sytem that will be in the next update.
Your choice.
Truecharts apps wonât be migrated to docker-compose automatically like official & community charts or custom installed apps.
If you want to keep using truecharts apps, youâre going to need to follow their documentation when they have their system ready to go. That will involve installing their supported linux distro in a VM.
In the meantime, Iâd be checking for security issues with those truecharts apps. They are no longer getting security updates. Not really sure Iâd stay with them, theyâve effectively taken their ball home and left users out to dry.
OK, I wasnât aware of this, so I guess it explains why most of my apps donât want to be updated. but even the TrueNas app (only qbittorrent for me) doesnât ask to be updated and if I ask it to install a new instance it get a much newer version.
Iâd say itâs more iX who have done that: âthousands of folks are using this? So what, throw it out.â So now TC needs to come up with a way for their users to move, taking development time that could have been spent on lots of things including keeping the charts up to date.
Opinions can vary, of course, but I consider this 120% iXâ fault.
TC could have said they are going to support their apps until DragonFish goes end of life. But they decided to freeze their app updates to work on a new solution. Which is totally their right, but they are leaving their users in a lurch.
Hope thereâs no security issues with any of their apps between now and Oct. Nobody will look good if that happens.
No doubt they could haveâand taken resources away from their migration process, which they wouldnât have needed (or, at least, needed so quickly) if iX werenât making massive breaking changes to their software.
I agree itâd have been nice if theyâd continued to keep their charts up-to-date at least until the release of EEâbut under the circumstances I canât blame them for not doing so.
But in the end, I guess both iX and TC get what they want. iX doesnât have to deal with Kubernetes, which Kris says they never wanted to do in the first place[1]; and TC doesnât have to deal with iX moving the goal posts on them.
