Idle Timeout and Firmware Update

[Fastline]

Hello Guys,

Typically on Windows and Mac, if a Seagate drive is not used, it enters into idle mode in like 30 mins (not sure of timing). I confirmed on both, and when trying to access a file, it takes a min or two, and i hear the drive spinup noise. So, is it the same on TrueNAS Core/SCALE?

Secondly, before doing the long SMART tests, i wanted to update the firmware as updates are available. I couldn’t find any guide on it. Running TrueNAS Core. No matter what i try to do, i cannot unzip any file even when running as root. Not sure what’s the problem. Any guidance will be really appreciated. Thanks

[neofusion]

@Fastline

Typically on Windows and Mac, if a Seagate drive is not used, it enters into idle mode in like 30 mins (not sure of timing). I confirmed on both, and when trying to access a file, it takes a min or two, and i hear the drive spinup noise. So, is it the same on TrueNAS Core/SCALE?

Yes and no. What you describe is part of the drive itself, the OS is irrelevant in the context of the built-in idle feature.

You can use SeaChest to change how the drive behaves.

@Fastline

Secondly, before doing the long SMART tests, i wanted to update the firmware as updates are available. I couldn’t find any guide on it. Running TrueNAS Core. No matter what i try to do, i cannot unzip any file even when running as root. Not sure what’s the problem. Any guidance will be really appreciated. Thanks

If you show how you try to use unzip and what errors you get maybe someone can better push you in the right direction - Ideally the full interaction from your command to error output. We can’t read your mind.

[Fastline]

@neofusion

Yes and no. What you describe is part of the drive itself, the OS is irrelevant in the context of the built-in idle feature.

You can use SeaChest to change how the drive behaves.

I see.

@neofusion

If you show how you try to use unzip and what errors you get maybe someone can better push you in the right direction - Ideally the full interaction from your command to error output. We can’t read your mind.

root@Storage[~]# sudo unzip SeaChestLite.zip

unzip: Unrecognized archive format

[SmallBarky]

That software is for Windows?

I don’t think there is any tools for TrueNAS. This is the Linux version shown

[Fastline]

Yes, correct. I’m unable to unzip anything. The Linux edition should work on TrueNAS. Isn’t it?

[winnielinnie]

Don’t use SeaChest Lite. Download SeaChest Utilities.

You’ll need to boot into a live Linux USB, like Ubuntu or any modern distro. Most ISOs are “bootable USB” ready.

Unzip the archive in the live session and navigate to the x86_64 Linux folder. The tools can be run in the terminal. Make sure to use ./NameOfExec to run a tool from the current directory.

[Fastline]

Thank you. So, not possible within TrueNAS. Okay, i get ya.

[neofusion]

OpenSeaChest exists. Seemingly supported by Seagate. The latest versions do not have ready-to-go binaries, but version v26.03.0 does. It extracts and runs, but I can’t vouch to how well it works when trying to flash firmware as I have no Seagate drives.

Here’s instructions on how to Update Drive Firmware using OpenSeaChest, heed the warnings no matter which tool you end up using:

How To Update Drive Firmware

[Fastline]

Thanks. Already aware of this but unable to do it on my TrueNAS Core. I think i would need a bootable USB for this.

[neofusion]

@Fastline

Thanks. Already aware of this but unable to do it on my TrueNAS Core. I think i would need a bootable USB for this.

Okay, you confused me when you said that you expected the Linux version would work.

It won’t, not on FreeBSD that CORE is built on, but maybe openSeaChest-v26.03.0-freebsd_13_5-x86_64.tar.xz would?

[Fastline]

Interesting find. Is that the latest? I cannot even unzip the files on TrueNAS core. I downloaded the file using wget. It could have been really easy ;(

[SmallBarky]

If you are sticking to TrueNAS 13, it is, pretty much dead. Support for the 13 version of FreeBSD is supposed to be dead in a few more days in April. 13 & 13.5 show April 30th Expected EOL.

Supported FreeBSD releases - FreeBSD Security Information

[Fastline]

Hmm. I see. Can I safely upgrade TrueNAS to SCALE then?

Another problem is that my regular machine is a Mac one and the Supermicro JAVA crashes when i try to click on virtual storage to be able to boot live into linux cause i don’t have any USB at hand.

[SmallBarky]

If you are thinking of migrating, you need to go over the online documentation and decide if a new install or attempting to migrate would be better.

Migrating from CORE

[winnielinnie]

@SmallBarky

Support for the 13 version of FreeBSD is supposed to be dead in a few more days in April.

The prophecy.

[Fastline]

@SmallBarky Okay, so updated it to SCALE. But i see this (the yellow lock icon). Does this mean my pools were encrypted during the migration process?

[SmallBarky]

I would guess it’s encrypted. Did you work through the online migration documentation? Was it encrypted before you migrated? There is a lot of info to cover before even beginning migration.

[Fastline]

Yes, all of them and no, the pool were unencrypted before the migration. How can i check whether the pools are encrypted or not via the WebUI?

Also, can you tell me what version to use for TrueNAS Scale?

Release v26.03.1 · Seagate/openSeaChest

[winnielinnie]

@Fastline

Also, can you tell me what version to use for TrueNAS Scale?

I would guess linux-x86_64-portable.zip

Extract it and then extract the tar.xz inside of it. The precompiled binaries are inside.

cd into the directory that holds the executables and use ./openSeaChest_Info or whichever command to run it from the current directory.

Use at your own risk.

[winnielinnie]

@Fastline

How can i check whether the pools are encrypted or not via the WebUI?

If the underlying partitions were encrypted in Core, you wouldn’t have been able to import the pool in SCALE.

To check for native ZFS encryption:

zfs list -r -t fs,vol -o name,encryption,encroot,keyformat,keystatus Pool1