Agreed, which is why I bel… hey wait a minute. I see what you did there. 
I can’t “take back” the like I gave you, either! Well played. Well played. You know the ins and outs of Discourse Game Theory™.
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Thank you, AMD.
Thank you for your service to humanity…
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AMD is going Xeon E: Same Core/Ryzen consumer silicon, with official support for server-grade features and server branding.
If this brings more AM5 server motherboards than the current AsRock Rack offering (and the occasional Gigabyte MC13), this is all good for our little home servers. EPYC 4004 is cheaper than Xeon E-2400 at the low end, and has twice the cores at the high end.
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Or put another way, Intel needed some real competition. It became an unhealthy company due to decades as a quasi-monopoly supplier of CPUs and other chips that allowed $152 billion in stock buybacks since 1990. Still remember how they apparently killed the Motorola chip division by hiring away anyone with an ounce of talent. Motorola couldn’t make PowerPC chips for love or money while IBM could.
Granted, Intel has spent a lot more than $152BN on R&D since 1990, especially in more recent years as they pushed through ~10% annual increases in R&D. But the monopoly pricing they enjoyed for years as AMD floundered with production issues was ultimately bad for the company.
For example, we recently took stock re: file-server motherboard options and concluded that file-server oriented motherboards are by and large a X10 series thing over at SuperMicro. That is driven in part by the chips available. The Atom Mini-ITX boards serve their purpose at the low end (and make a lot of compromises along the way) while the D-2xxx successor to the D-15xx Xeon series are too powerful / power hungry / expensive to find use in a file server board that I’d consider.
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I took a look at the AMD Epyc 4004 series, but I could not find if they supported the low end video that some of the AM5 socketed Ryzen chips do. That would be helpful for low end servers that just need a console. (And perhaps simple trans-coding of video, though I don’t know if those low end GPUs are able to do so, live.)
For those that don’t know, AMD has started to include low end GPUs in most of their Ryzen CPU chips. These are NOT the G series which include integrated decent quality GPUs. Since these Epyc are using AM5 sockets, which include video out, I’d hope they would include such low end GPUs.
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These are rebranded Ryzen 7600 to 7900X, plus the 7900X3D and 7950X3D and a new 4 core reference at the low end, and apparently feature the same iGPU as the desktop parts (not so low end, but not as good as Intel QuickSync for transcoding). All articles I’ve seen suggest so, although I could not find confirmation on AMD’s page.
Edit. Supermicro’s EPYC 4004 systems feature a DisplayPort 1.4 and a HDMI 2 port in addition to the usual VGA port. I doubt that the higher spec ports are powered by IPMI…
Edit 2 This AMD slide does show the “RDNA 2” iGPU:
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What does user expect? He didn’t even post his house’s hardware specs.
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@etorix - Thanks for the research on the iGPU. That is helpful, as well as the confirmation that those parts officially support ECC memory. Also kinda nice is the potential to bolt on USB4.
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Yeah. That’s k8s.
Love the part about calendars and dealing with the number of options, of which only one does exactly what’s needed…
[Why make it simple when one can make it complicated?]
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Repost from old forums with slight modification, but still true for me.
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