QNAP TS-877 Truenas Journal

I’ve used jailmaker to make a Debian docker machine jail.

I then use compose to config/define all my apps on it

Dockge is cool for a compose ui.

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i saw dockge it’s kewl. but at the time when i found it, it was in an alpha state. very promising but thought i’d wait xd.

i still stuck with portainer and haven’t found anything else. i’m just content with portainer, it’s not perfect but i’m very use to it by now hehe ^^

yeah i was just checking up what’s truecharts and all that.

if i had to make an equivalency it would be Paris Syndrome *no joke it’s a real thing

Around a dozen Japanese tourists a year need psychological treatment after visiting Paris as the reality of unfriendly locals and scruffy streets clashes with their expectations, a newspaper reported Sunday.

so newcomers not knowing about this will get caught out. Glad i found out in time so i can steer clear of that :sweat_smile:

not sure about jail maker but i’ll look into that ty. i really don’t know truenas options for dockers so i will have to investigate further :face_with_monocle:

hm does anyone know how to check current fan speeds without having to restart and check through bios?

can this be check what the current fan speed is?

the reason why i am asking is because i want to check the TS-653A if the fans are working. I went to netdata to keep an eye on temps in the meanwhile. Never got an alert on the nas about temps so i assume it just works.

Not like the TS-877 where it gave me an alarm and it was real the fans weren’t working till i fixed it.

Try running sensors

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Why not just use bridge networking. Your jail can essentially have a different IP on the same LAN as your NAS.

As of it were a different machine, but still have local access to datasets.

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back when i was doing docker containers on qnap qts,

i used macvlans in order to setup static ips so i had the container on the same lan as my private vlan network.

cause i needed to be able to reach them over 2 different vlans. one private, one guest/iot

i setup on pfsense avahi so i can have private vlan talk to iots, but not the other way around.

anyway i’m still learning so will look into that ty :} hopefully i find a guide on it.

another thing i did, using traefik it can remove the need to specify the port. i just simply access the service app url and it runs the app. no need type ports.

traefik manages all that. keeps things simple. just initial setup complicated.

Wolfgang came up with a better setup local only homelab. he used nginx proxy manager to use lets encrypt. This way you could get a working https that actually worked without the constant (are you sure?) warnings for self made certs (based on the first first by heziode i mentioned)

Alternatively is Tim’s Traefik setup

Then for the local domains, i used a combination of pfsense and windows. When i use my mullvad vpn client, it switches to the windows 11 local domain list. But with it off, it switches to the router list. So i can access using my own local domain urls e.g. http://myappurl.lan

for app security i used authentik. i setup passwordless so i can simply go to my dashboard (dashy) unlock with fingerprint scan on android mobile to unlock without typing username/password.

Very secure and convenient :slightly_smiling_face:

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linked a few before so won’t relink again. still digesting them, nom nom ‘;…;’

root@xxxxxxx[~]# sensors
k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
Tctl: +42.2°C

root@xxxxxx[~]#

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going through the new changes in dragonfish

spotted netadata in the ui integration was new apparently. i luv it :heart_eyes:

saves me the BIG hassle of setting that up as a container. It’s too damn useful, every1 should have it. It’s great for troubleshoot.

They are not.

I don’t know whose quote that is. It’s harsh, but fair.

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i added the reddit earlier if you’re interested. i merely just read what others were saying. lots of drama apparently yikes.

https://www.reddit.com/r/truenas/comments/1c8vlrg/comment/l0hfh7n/

https://www.reddit.com/r/truenas/comments/1c8vlrg/comment/l0hv7e9/

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TrueNAS 13.0 users can easily “sidegrade” to TrueNAS SCALE Dragonfish with the primary exception being Jail users. Dragonfish includes early support for Sandboxes, offering jail-like capabilities in Linux.

https://www.reddit.com/r/truenas/comments/1bhud3y/jailmakersandboxes_is_a_gamechanger_for_lowend/

https://www.reddit.com/r/truenas/comments/1bypz7s/from_truecharts_apps_to_jailmaker_on_truenas/

yup, I jumped on Jailmaker about a year or so ago after struggling massively with TrueNas’ applications. I didn’t want to run a VM just to run Docker, that seemed super wasteful and became difficult to share resources like a GPU.

Jailmaker was exactly what I needed and it just worked.

I agree :100:. I’ve been using it for a while now as well. My only use for it at the moment is for Docker, but I may have other uses for JailMaker in the future.

this is exactly what i needed. official project page?

i tried youtube didn’t find anything talking about this? :thinking:

according to the jailmaker guide they even accounted for how to get traefik working when fighting over ports 80 and 443 with truenas

Networking

By default the jail will have full access to the host network. No further setup is required. You may download and install additional packages inside the jail. Note that some ports are already occupied by TrueNAS SCALE (e.g. 443 for the web interface), so your jail can’t listen on these ports. This is inconvenient if you want to host some services (e.g. traefik) inside the jail. To workaround this issue when using host networking, you may disable DHCP and add several static IP addresses (Aliases) through the TrueNAS web interface. If you setup the TrueNAS web interface to only listen on one of these IP addresses, the ports on the remaining IP addresses remain available for the jail to listen on.

See Advanced Networking for more.

so apparently this is the situation, i see

https://www.reddit.com/r/truenas/comments/1b0hi1c/scale_will_new_jails_be_official/

I’m not sure if you’ve followed other threads, but we discussed elsewhere that we are evaluating Docker + Compose right now. The Sandboxes / Jailmaker stuff is not intended to replace K8’s, its more of a analog to FreeBSD Jails for the “power-user” type audience who would be satisfied with neither. We are well aware of how cumbersome K8’s is for Apps right now and its a big priority for us to rectify that situation :slight_smile:

yeah my knowledge on k8 is little to none. I only know docker :sweat_smile: