TrueNAS SCALE 24.10.0 is Now Available!

[georgelza]

… as soon as i’ve completed my hdd swop out, will be scheduled.

i’m still running pre dragonfish zfs… guessing it’s time to also do the enable new features.

G

[sendu]

@Captain_Morgan

The Electric Eel software cloned your user data and then hid the original.
That way the migration could be done from K8s to Docker without touching your original data. If you needed to move back to Dragonfish, we would then be able to downgrade and preserve the original data. So it was purely an exercise of adding seat belts.

That actually seems worse than what I thought it did. So if I decided I needed to downgrade, my app data would unexpectedly revert back in time and I’d lose data and state produced since doing the upgrade?

Anyway, it doesn’t change the fact there was no warning or explanation. “Hiding user data” should not be something an upgrade does unless there’s some large blinking lights highlighting what’s going on.

And I still don’t know how I’m expected to back up app data now.

[Protopia]

@Captain_Morgan

The Electric Eel software cloned your user data and then hid the original.
That way the migration could be done from K8s to Docker without touching your original data. If you needed to move back to Dragonfish, we would then be able to downgrade and preserve the original data. So it was purely an exercise of adding seat belts.

If this was actually the case (which I hope it isn’t), I cannot even begin to describe just how incorrect this is.

If you had data in the apps that you were preserving by making a copy, and then you ran EE apps for a day or two which updated that data, and then you moved back to Dragonfish, you would then be working NOT on the updated data, but instead on the original data with your updates lost.

Fortunately, I think (or hope) that this is not the case, because the data in Host Paths are not copied, and only ixVolumes would contain updateable data (as opposed to static configuration data) - and ixVolumes should no longer be in use.

[Protopia]

@georgelza

guessing it’s time to also do the enable new features

IMO you want to enable new features (on non-boot pools) when you are certain that you do not plan to go back to a previous version of TrueNAS that is incompatible with these features - so typically this will be once you are completely comfortable that the upgrade version is stable.

At that point you should probably:

• Remove previous versions from the System Settings / Boot page (which will free up boot-pool space)
• Run the ZFS feature upgrade on your existing pools.

I would add that there were feature upgrades available before the upgrade to a new version, I would probably apply those before doing the upgrade.

The EE upgrade enables RAIDZ expansion, which is a new feature. I can’t remember whether it was Cobia or Dragonfish that enabled Block Cloning which was also a new feature - but these upgrades to ZFS are typically in major TrueNAS versions rather than minor ones.

[Stux]

Probably a good idea to upgrade that pool in Dragonfish before upgrading

Are you really going to go back to Bluefin?

[oxyde]

Migrated from Core 13.3 to stable 24.10… all seems going fine, just nothing more of a fresh install → config upload. Im migrating every app from a previous VM just fine (boring, but easy).

Just a question: i have created an admin user (waiting for disabling password on root one inherited from Core), just copying settings from the root… Enough or something else to do before?