Truenas Scale 24.10.1 "Add Catalog option" missing

Apps and Virtualization
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Hi,

I have just installed Truenas Scale 24.10.1 on my HP Gen8 microserver and I wanted to add some catalogs for more software.

The manual says:

To add catalogs in TrueNAS SCALE version 24.10, follow these steps:

  1. Navigate to the Apps section in the TrueNAS SCALE web interface.
  2. Click on Discover Apps.
  3. At the top of the Discover screen, click on Manage Catalogs to open the Catalogs screen.
  4. Click Add Catalog at the top right of the Catalogs screen.

However: I don’t have option 4 anywhere?

What am I missing?

Thanks!

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You can’t add catalogues in 24.10 anymore. That option is gone for good. The only catalogue is the official from iX.

Edit: With the switch to docker in 24.10 you can use the custom app yaml function to deploy any docker-compose

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Yes - when a new version is launched the documentation starts off as a copy of the previous version’s documentation, and then any changes needed for this version are made. And it appears that this is a hang-over from Dragonfish and the edit has been overlooked.

For the Docker infrastructure, instead of allowing 3rd party catalogues, iX have chosen to be more open to Community generated apps being included in the one-and-only iX-owned catalogue.

(Personally I think that this was a wise decision - with hindsight if you encourage 3rd party catalogues which you have zero control over, and you need to make technology changes, then as we have seen iX cannot create a migration route for any apps installed from these 3rd party catalogues.)

However, what we do not yet have is many examples of the community submitting Docker apps to the iX catalogues e.g. to match TrueCharts apps, and of the iX and / or community governance for reviewing the submission for generality, requesting changes, and approving+merging the change to make the app generally available.

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Propably because most of the community now use portainer/dockge or the custom app function without bothering to submit to the community apps.
As far as i’ve looked (coming from a non-it view) it’s not that straight foward with the instructions i’ve seen…

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Ah, that explains. Hmm, I’m not really happy with that. But it is what it is…

Thanks!

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Ok, that figures, then. Thanks for taking the time to reply.

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This is a real shame, because everyone re-inventing the wheel is IMO a very retrograde step cf. TrueCharts. One of the big improvements in Scale was to have a catalogue so that each user didn’t have to reinvent the wheel and also do manual updates of apps, and iX opening it up to TrueCharts to create apps en-mass was a very beneficial idea (even if it did create other long-term issues) so going back to roll-your-own for commonly used apps seems very retrograde to me.

[rant]
I see it as an indictment of iX for not making the process straight forward and the documentation clear and easy to understand, and for not proactively encouraging the community to submit apps (in return for not having to support them long-term and as a payment-in-kind for the free use of TrueNAS), and for not creating a governance infrastructure so that the community can be confident that their efforts will be worthwhile.
[/rant]

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You’ve already gotten good replies explaining that you can’t add catalogues like that anymore.

But can you say exactly where you got the information? Ideally a direct link.
I ask because I can’t find it on any 24.10-related page.

The only explanation I can think of is that you used iX’s “AI Powered Search” and that it hallucinated a response that was wildly inaccurate, in which case that should be reported to iX.

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I used the AI search and got this answer, where it starts with

Question: how do I add catalogs in 24.10

Answer: To add catalogs in TrueNAS SCALE version 24.10, follow these steps:

  1. Navigate to the Apps section in the TrueNAS SCALE web interface.
  2. Click on Discover Apps.
  3. At the top of the Discover screen, click on Manage Catalogs to open the Catalogs screen.
  4. Click Add Catalog at the top right of the Catalogs screen.
  5. A warning dialog will appear. Click Continue to proceed to the Add Catalog screen.
  6. Fill out the Add Catalog form:
  • Enter a name in Catalog Name, for example, mycatalog.
  • Select a valid GitHub repository in Repository. For example, https://github.com/mycatalog/catalog.
  • Type the name of the train TrueNAS should use to retrieve available application information from the catalog.
  • Enter the GitHub repository branch TrueNAS should use for the catalog in Branch. Leave this set to main unless you need to change it.
  1. Click Save to add the catalog.

Please note that using third-party app catalogs is at your own risk, as iXsystems does not provide support for them.

For more detailed instructions, you can refer to the TrueNAS Documentation Hub.

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So yeah… So far for AI giving a 24.04 reference for 24.10 :man_facepalming:t2:

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Just did that again, and now it forgot the previous answer already…

You gotta love it… :man_facepalming:t2:

Question: how do I add catalogs in 24.10

Answer: I’m sorry, I don’t know the answer to your question, but you might be able to find it by entering a keyword in the search bar on TrueNAS Documentation Hub.

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Maybe they fixed it?

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Still not finding it, brand new install.

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There’s nothing to fix, there is and won’t be an option to add caralogues after dragonfish

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