User account is broken after 25.10 upgrade due to builtin group membership

Hi,

I have a user account that was part of two builtin groups (docker, dialout) prior to the 25.10 upgrade. Now that I’ve upgraded, I get an error when trying to add the user to any non-builtin group via the UI:

dialout: membership of this builtin group may not be altered.

Also when trying to remove the user from the group, I get an error:

[EINVAL] group_update.id: Immutable groups cannot be changed

Is there any way to recover the account?

Thank you

Having the same issue with the render group on 25.10. Can’t add the apps user to the group.

yep same issue. stuck with all my users having ssh access.

you would have thought they would have ensured the groups were clean before upgrading to a non-changeable version

  1. Revert back to the previous version using the built-in method under System → Boot.

  2. Change the group memberships.

  3. Upgrade to 25.10 again.

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doesn’t work for me. I made a fresh boot drive with a clean install, so i could create mirrored boot drives.

then restored the old system back. so i am fck is what you are saying

I wouldn’t say that.

You can probably export the database-file, edit it directly and then import that into a new install.
But I can’t guide you through those steps.

There may also be an easier way.

I just updated and was not aware of this issue.
I can’t add the apps user to the render group.

The guard rails are getting annoying.

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