We're all doomed. AI will kill creativity

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I made this with Suno in about one minute.

No experience in writing music. No mixers. No professional audio equipment or software.

I simply prompted Suno to make me an electro swing song about a server admin losing his files on TrueNAS, and to mention keywords such as ZFS and snapshots. I told it to add a saxophone and piano.

That’s it. No effort at all from me.

A minute later, I have a catchy song that never existed before.

NAS Swan Song :point_left: click to listen

Click to read the lyrics

[Verse]
Click-click the pool won’t import
My server’s stuck like a ship at port
ZFS my hero where did you flee?
My data’s gone nothing left to see

[Prechorus]
Snapshots were my safety net
Now I’m drowning in regret

[Chorus]
Server blues weeping through the night
Files gone in a flash of light
No snapshots no redundancy
Oh TrueNAS why’d this happen to me?

[Verse 2]
The logs are cryptic the console’s mean
Error codes laughing on the screen
Parity’s gone and I’m losing my cool
ZFS you’re supposed to rule

[Prechorus]
Datasets once bastions of pride
Now they’re ghosts on the other side

[Chorus]
Server blues weeping through the night
Files gone in a flash of light
No snapshots no redundancy
Oh TrueNAS why’d this happen to me?

[Verse 3]
Unplug my power TrueNAS no more
The system sleeps the hard drives snore
Don’t need ZFS to preserve memories
Pen and paper good enough for me

Is it rough around the edges? Do some of the lyrics not make sense? Sure, but give it a few more years and it will blow music artists and composers out of the water. I will bet on that.

I didn’t even use Suno v4.5, which way better than v3.5. (I know because I made a couple free songs with v4.5, and the vocals and instruments are much cleaner and higher quality.) Even with v3.5, the quality is impressive.

Remember that line from The Incredibles? “When everybody is super, no one will be.” Replace “super” with “artist”. Thanks, AI. :pensive:

It’s one thing to use AI to replace monotony and tasks we’d rather not do. But what happens when it takes away the challenge from things that were once fun?

We’re doomed.

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That was awesome! Love the lyrics too.
I could see this on the radio, oops, internet since radio is likely dying as well.

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Internet killed the radio star? :smiley:

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Are you sayng that instead of make meme we should make songs?

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AI will curb stomp everything.

That’s why this is bad. It was too easy. No effort or skill needed, and eventually we’ll just be able to sling ideas at a wall and sort through a bunch of songs to pick the best versions.

I you have doubts at the quality of AI music in the near future, listen to this, which someone generated with the v4.5 engine. They had access to a higher tier, but in time more and more people will be able to afford it.

You’d be lying if you say it wouldn’t pass for a top billboard song ten years ago. In fact, I bet if you played that song to someone who is unaware of what AI music is, they wouldn’t suspect it.

The technology hurdle has been reached. Now it’s just a matter of accessibility. Once free or cheap tiers allow you to experiment and produce dozens of songs a day, and make it easier to use the more advance customizations, it’s over. Humans, in general, err towards the path of least resistance.

We’re already at this point in 2025? That’s not a good sign.

It’s one thing to automate mundane tasks and chores, but when AI replaces challenge and fun, you’re going to see further separation between people.

I read a post on Reddit how someone boasted that they go for walks with a playlist of music they created. No one else heard or knows of their music. They made it seem like a good thing. How? Where’s the connection with others? Where’s the shared memories?

Let me ask this: Are you amazed whenever you see a photograph in a Google search? Whenever you see a funny animal video on YouTube? Of course not. There’s too many out there to count, so what’s the big deal?

As new generations grow up with this tech, one kid might say to another, “Listen to this song I made”. The other can just respond, “So? I can make dozens of those tonight.”

Because of Androids and iPhones, camera sales are going down, not up. Mark my words: After a decade, AI will run circles around music artists. The people who deny this have no idea how fast this technology progresses.

You’ll be able to say in the privacy of your own kitchen, “Alexa, generate a new playlist of country songs blended with R&B, have a mix of male and female singers, and don’t let the tempo run too fast.”

Within minutes, the first of your songs in the queue will already be playing, and you’ll listen to a brand new playlist that no one else has ever heard before.

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Wow, that is crazy. Sounds like a real group. I like the song. So you create a song for practically no money overhead and collect on the profits. Hum… what an idea.

As for Google and what shows up there, or Twitter, Instagram, etc. I don’t believe most of what is out there. My wife says “Look at that small dog rescuing puppies from that 15 foot alligator, it goes inside its mouth and pulls out puppies it just ate, OMG, can you believe that?” I say, nope. But she does because it looks too real for her to understand that technology has come a very long way. I just let her be, not worth an argument.

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I don’t know about this. It seems to be a gray area. We’ll see how it plays out. The music industry is trying to find legal ways to combat this using copyright laws. They claim that if a model’s training data includes copyrighted music, it is grounds for a lawsuit.

I don’t see that as an issue going forward, since AI can be trained on itself and what other users create. The old industry will be left behind. When given the choice to fight or adapt, it is the latter who wins in the end.

That’s actually real. I personally recorded that video. I told my friend that no one will believe it’s real. See? AI is making us question everything. :cry:

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I just made a few more songs with the new v4.5 engine.

This thing is going to kill the music industry… :flushed:

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But AI is extremely useful for other kinds of human “creativity”:

North Koreans taking simultaneously three or four remote jobs as developpers in the US, without speaking English, to fund the weapon programme of the Supreme Leader… Wonderful!

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AI is making us question everything. :cry:

It’s about time. The last line of defense is critical thinking, which we’re sorely lacking right now.

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Creativity in AI use spotted, again:

Anthropic says that Claude has built-in safeguards to help prevent this from happening, but the attackers were able to circumvent this. The first thing they did was to convince the LLM that it was working for a cybersecurity company, and that it was being used for penetration testing and red teaming. They also broke down the entire operation into smaller, seemingly innocent tasks. This prevented Claude from seeing the entire context of the operation and the true purpose of its instructions.

None of that shall come as a surprise to readers of Neal Stephenson’s Snow Crash (1992). The novel even foresaw that the attack would be carried out with tools crafted by a state actor…

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