Version: TrueNAS-13.0-U6.1
Platform: TRUENAS-MINI-3.0-X
I am confused. geom disk list shows 5 drives, however View Enclosure in the web gui, does not.
Why is ada4 missing?
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What’s the output of zpool status and camcontrol devlist?
Also, please add CORE tag for targeted help.
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The “missing” drive could in fact be the SATA DOM, which is used for the boot-pool.
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root@freenas[~]# zpool list
NAME SIZE ALLOC FREE CKPOINT EXPANDSZ FRAG CAP DEDUP HEALTH ALTROOT
foo 45.2T 19.0T 26.2T - - 8% 42% 1.00x ONLINE /mnt
freenas-boot 14.5G 6.87G 7.63G - - 5% 47% 1.00x ONLINE -
root@freenas[~]# camcontrol devlist
<WDC WD101EFAX-68LDBN0 81.00A81> at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (ada0,pass0)
<AHCI SGPIO Enclosure 2.00 0001> at scbus4 target 0 lun 0 (ses0,pass1)
<WDC WD101EFAX-68LDBN0 81.00A81> at scbus5 target 0 lun 0 (ada1,pass2)
<WDC WD101EFAX-68LDBN0 81.00A81> at scbus6 target 0 lun 0 (ada2,pass3)
<WDC WD101EFAX-68LDBN0 81.00A81> at scbus7 target 0 lun 0 (ada3,pass4)
<WDC WD101EFAX-68LDBN0 81.00A81> at scbus8 target 0 lun 0 (ada4,pass5)
<16GB SATA Flash Drive SFDK004A> at scbus9 target 0 lun 0 (ada5,pass6)
<AHCI SGPIO Enclosure 2.00 0001> at scbus10 target 0 lun 0 (ses1,pass7)
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Yup, you are missing a drive. Enterprise edition is not really my field, but I would try a reboot before anything.
Also, @winnielinnie how did you manage to add the category?
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# zpool status foo
pool: foo
state: ONLINE
scan: scrub repaired 0B in 10:27:46 with 0 errors on Sun Mar 31 10:27:49 2024
config:
NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM
foo ONLINE 0 0 0
raidz2-0 ONLINE 0 0 0
gptid/5f24dd27-0d90-11eb-9cdc-d05099dc8f1d ONLINE 0 0 0
gptid/5f287f9f-0d90-11eb-9cdc-d05099dc8f1d ONLINE 0 0 0
gptid/5f7adb67-0d90-11eb-9cdc-d05099dc8f1d ONLINE 0 0 0
gptid/5f7e59bf-0d90-11eb-9cdc-d05099dc8f1d ONLINE 0 0 0
gptid/5f813b43-0d90-11eb-9cdc-d05099dc8f1d ONLINE 0 0 0
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Looks like it’s a bug with the GUI, then. (Referring to the “drive bays overview” in your first post.)
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Either GUI or API. That’s work for iX’s team though, we have little experience with enterprise versions… I don’t seem to recall any similar thread on the old forum.
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Very pretty pool illustration. I do wonder how they determine the actual hot-swap location unless they’ve become very consistent re: which cable goes to which hot-swap bay.
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That’s pretty much how they have to do it, with passive backplanes. Not a big deal with a decent production setup, though individual SATA connectors instead of SFF-8643 make for a pain in the ass and potentially higher defect rates during assembly.
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Those disk drive temperatures (60+*C) scare me, even if those are flash drives are under scrub. Has the cooling system failed?
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There was a thread on the old forum about overheating in Minies due to (iirc) faster than 5400RPM drives being used.
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My MiniXL did an excellent job of cooking my drives in their own juices while under scrub or resilver. I tried fitting better fans, etc. and came to the conclusion that more radical case modifications would be needed to make especially the top two drive bays barely tolerable. The case design of the Mini Xl was around minimizing space / volume, not good ventilation.
Instead, I decided to go for the Lian-Li Q26A, which is still the best case out there for small (sub-10 drive) NAS systems out there as long as you can tolerate a Mini-ITX form factor motherboard squeeze. It is not much larger than a Mini XL but it uses a standard ATX PSU, offers excellent access (pop out sides), and very efficient / effective fooling with just a few Noctua 120mm fans. Best of all, the HDDs present their butts to you when you open the case so the S/Ns (at least for HGST) are there, in plain sight. Makes pulling the right hard drive trivial, no GUI display needed.
The optional backplane makes it almost as easy as the hotswap bay of the MiniXL. Unlike the MiniXL, the whole thing is KISS. All I need to know is what S/N I need to pull and I can do the rest without having to look at the GUI. Heck, I can even shut the machine down in case I don’t trust the backplane (and its missing capacitors).
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I do not think so. The system is 4 years old and has been running CORE up until a few days ago.
root@freenas[~]# ipmimonitoring
ID | Name | Type | State | Reading | Units | Event
1 | 5V_AUX | Voltage | Nominal | 4.95 | V | 'OK'
2 | 3.3V_AUX | Voltage | Nominal | 3.30 | V | 'OK'
3 | CPU_Vcore | Voltage | Nominal | 1.01 | V | 'OK'
4 | VNN | Voltage | Nominal | 0.81 | V | 'OK'
5 | VCCSRAM | Voltage | Nominal | 1.00 | V | 'OK'
6 | VCCM | Voltage | Nominal | 1.19 | V | 'OK'
7 | 1.05V | Voltage | Nominal | 1.04 | V | 'OK'
8 | 1.8V | Voltage | Nominal | 1.79 | V | 'OK'
9 | BAT | Voltage | Nominal | 3.10 | V | 'OK'
10 | 12V | Voltage | Nominal | 12.00 | V | 'OK'
15 | MB Temp | Temperature | Nominal | 42.00 | C | 'OK'
16 | Card side Temp | Temperature | Nominal | 43.00 | C | 'OK'
18 | CPU1 Temp | Temperature | Nominal | 48.00 | C | 'OK'
19 | MemA Temp | Temperature | Nominal | 59.00 | C | 'OK'
20 | MemB Temp | Temperature | Nominal | 61.00 | C | 'OK'
21 | CPU1_FAN1 | Fan | Nominal | 3400.00 | RPM | 'OK'
24 | REAR_FAN1 | Fan | Nominal | 500.00 | RPM | 'OK'
29 | ChassisIntr | Physical Security | Nominal | N/A | N/A | 'OK'
30 | CPU1_PROCHOT | Processor | Nominal | N/A | N/A | 'OK'
31 | CPU1_THERMTRIP | Processor | Nominal | N/A | N/A | 'OK'
32 | PSU1 Status | Power Supply | Nominal | N/A | N/A | 'OK'
34 | PSU2 Status | Power Supply | Nominal | N/A | N/A | 'OK'
smartctl 7.4 2023-08-01 r5530 [x86_64-linux-6.1.74-production+truenas] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-23, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org
=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model: WDC WD101EFAX-68LDBN0
LU WWN Device Id: 5 000cca 0b0c5d9e1
Firmware Version: 81.00A81
User Capacity: 10,000,831,348,736 bytes [10.0 TB]
Sector Sizes: 512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
Rotation Rate: 5400 rpm
Form Factor: 3.5 inches
Device is: Not in smartctl database 7.3/5528
ATA Version is: ACS-2, ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4
SATA Version is: SATA 3.2, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is: Sun Apr 14 07:57:39 2024 CDT
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled
AAM feature is: Unavailable
APM level is: 1 (minimum power consumption with standby)
Rd look-ahead is: Enabled
Write cache is: Enabled
DSN feature is: Unavailable
ATA Security is: Disabled, frozen [SEC2]
Wt Cache Reorder: Enabled
=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status: (0x84) Offline data collection activity
was suspended by an interrupting command from host.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever
been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: ( 87) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
No Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: (1145) minutes.
SCT capabilities: (0x003d) SCT Status supported.
SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
SCT Feature Control supported.
SCT Data Table supported.
SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAGS VALUE WORST THRESH FAIL RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate PO-R-- 100 100 016 - 0
2 Throughput_Performance --S--- 127 127 054 - 112
3 Spin_Up_Time POS--- 202 202 024 - 398 (Average 406)
4 Start_Stop_Count -O--C- 100 100 000 - 177
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct PO--CK 100 100 005 - 0
7 Seek_Error_Rate -O-R-- 100 100 067 - 0
8 Seek_Time_Performance --S--- 128 128 020 - 18
9 Power_On_Hours -O--C- 097 097 000 - 21175
10 Spin_Retry_Count -O--C- 100 100 060 - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count -O--CK 100 100 000 - 177
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count -O--CK 100 100 000 - 1177
193 Load_Cycle_Count -O--C- 100 100 000 - 1177
194 Temperature_Celsius -O---- 104 104 000 - 62 (Min/Max 22/66)
196 Reallocated_Event_Count -O--CK 100 100 000 - 0
197 Current_Pending_Sector -O---K 100 100 000 - 0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable ---R-- 100 100 000 - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count -O-R-- 200 200 000 - 0
||||||_ K auto-keep
|||||__ C event count
||||___ R error rate
|||____ S speed/performance
||_____ O updated online
|______ P prefailure warning
General Purpose Log Directory Version 1
SMART Log Directory Version 1 [multi-sector log support]
Address Access R/W Size Description
0x00 GPL,SL R/O 1 Log Directory
0x01 SL R/O 1 Summary SMART error log
0x02 SL R/O 1 Comprehensive SMART error log
0x03 GPL R/O 1 Ext. Comprehensive SMART error log
0x04 GPL R/O 256 Device Statistics log
0x04 SL R/O 255 Device Statistics log
0x06 SL R/O 1 SMART self-test log
0x07 GPL R/O 1 Extended self-test log
0x08 GPL R/O 2 Power Conditions log
0x09 SL R/W 1 Selective self-test log
0x0c GPL R/O 5501 Pending Defects log
0x10 GPL R/O 1 NCQ Command Error log
0x11 GPL R/O 1 SATA Phy Event Counters log
0x12 GPL R/O 1 SATA NCQ Non-Data log
0x13 GPL R/O 1 SATA NCQ Send and Receive log
0x15 GPL R/W 1 Rebuild Assist log
0x21 GPL R/O 1 Write stream error log
0x22 GPL R/O 1 Read stream error log
0x24 GPL R/O 256 Current Device Internal Status Data log
0x25 GPL R/O 256 Saved Device Internal Status Data log
0x2f GPL R/O 1 Set Sector Configuration
0x30 GPL,SL R/O 9 IDENTIFY DEVICE data log
0x80-0x9f GPL,SL R/W 16 Host vendor specific log
0xe0 GPL,SL R/W 1 SCT Command/Status
0xe1 GPL,SL R/W 1 SCT Data Transfer
SMART Extended Comprehensive Error Log Version: 1 (1 sectors)
No Errors Logged
SMART Extended Self-test Log Version: 1 (1 sectors)
Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error
# 1 Short offline Completed without error 00% 16466 -
# 2 Short offline Completed without error 00% 9915 -
# 3 Short offline Completed without error 00% 540 -
# 4 Short offline Completed without error 00% 539 -
SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
1 0 0 Not_testing
2 0 0 Not_testing
3 0 0 Not_testing
4 0 0 Not_testing
5 0 0 Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.
SCT Status Version: 3
SCT Version (vendor specific): 256 (0x0100)
Device State: SMART Off-line Data Collection executing in background (4)
Current Temperature: 62 Celsius
Power Cycle Min/Max Temperature: 55/63 Celsius
Lifetime Min/Max Temperature: 22/66 Celsius
Under/Over Temperature Limit Count: 0/0
SCT Temperature History Version: 2
Temperature Sampling Period: 1 minute
Temperature Logging Interval: 1 minute
Min/Max recommended Temperature: 0/65 Celsius
Min/Max Temperature Limit: -40/70 Celsius
Temperature History Size (Index): 128 (102)
Index Estimated Time Temperature Celsius
103 2024-04-14 05:50 62 ***************************************+
... ..(126 skipped). .. ***************************************+
102 2024-04-14 07:57 62 ***************************************+
SCT Error Recovery Control:
Read: 70 (7.0 seconds)
Write: 70 (7.0 seconds)
Device Statistics (GP Log 0x04)
Page Offset Size Value Flags Description
0x01 ===== = = === == General Statistics (rev 1) ==
0x01 0x008 4 177 --- Lifetime Power-On Resets
0x01 0x010 4 21175 --- Power-on Hours
0x01 0x018 6 181301589745 --- Logical Sectors Written
0x01 0x020 6 2231081406 --- Number of Write Commands
0x01 0x028 6 176697092260 --- Logical Sectors Read
0x01 0x030 6 568936553 --- Number of Read Commands
0x01 0x038 6 76232808650 --- Date and Time TimeStamp
0x03 ===== = = === == Rotating Media Statistics (rev 1) ==
0x03 0x008 4 19490 --- Spindle Motor Power-on Hours
0x03 0x010 4 19490 --- Head Flying Hours
0x03 0x018 4 1177 --- Head Load Events
0x03 0x020 4 0 --- Number of Reallocated Logical Sectors
0x03 0x028 4 15 --- Read Recovery Attempts
0x03 0x030 4 0 --- Number of Mechanical Start Failures
0x04 ===== = = === == General Errors Statistics (rev 1) ==
0x04 0x008 4 0 --- Number of Reported Uncorrectable Errors
0x04 0x010 4 0 --- Resets Between Cmd Acceptance and Completion
0x05 ===== = = === == Temperature Statistics (rev 1) ==
0x05 0x008 1 62 --- Current Temperature
0x05 0x010 1 62 N-- Average Short Term Temperature
0x05 0x018 1 59 N-- Average Long Term Temperature
0x05 0x020 1 66 --- Highest Temperature
0x05 0x028 1 22 --- Lowest Temperature
0x05 0x030 1 65 N-- Highest Average Short Term Temperature
0x05 0x038 1 25 N-- Lowest Average Short Term Temperature
0x05 0x040 1 63 N-- Highest Average Long Term Temperature
0x05 0x048 1 25 N-- Lowest Average Long Term Temperature
0x05 0x050 4 12052 --- Time in Over-Temperature
0x05 0x058 1 65 --- Specified Maximum Operating Temperature
0x05 0x060 4 0 --- Time in Under-Temperature
0x05 0x068 1 0 --- Specified Minimum Operating Temperature
0x06 ===== = = === == Transport Statistics (rev 1) ==
0x06 0x008 4 446 --- Number of Hardware Resets
0x06 0x010 4 42 --- Number of ASR Events
0x06 0x018 4 0 --- Number of Interface CRC Errors
0xff ===== = = === == Vendor Specific Statistics (rev 1) ==
|||_ C monitored condition met
||__ D supports DSN
|___ N normalized value
Pending Defects log (GP Log 0x0c)
No Defects Logged
SATA Phy Event Counters (GP Log 0x11)
ID Size Value Description
0x0001 2 0 Command failed due to ICRC error
0x0002 2 0 R_ERR response for data FIS
0x0003 2 0 R_ERR response for device-to-host data FIS
0x0004 2 0 R_ERR response for host-to-device data FIS
0x0005 2 0 R_ERR response for non-data FIS
0x0006 2 0 R_ERR response for device-to-host non-data FIS
0x0007 2 0 R_ERR response for host-to-device non-data FIS
0x0008 2 0 Device-to-host non-data FIS retries
0x0009 2 2 Transition from drive PhyRdy to drive PhyNRdy
0x000a 2 3 Device-to-host register FISes sent due to a COMRESET
0x000b 2 0 CRC errors within host-to-device FIS
0x000d 2 0 Non-CRC errors within host-to-device FIS
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Just wow. Glad your system is OK.
My hard drives just learned to never complain again for being run, even briefly, over 35*C.
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I just upgraded memory(16GB->64GB) and it seems like it might have bumped the temperature a few degrees up.
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Adding any kind of heat source can do that.
My bigger concern is that your drives were operating over the preset temperature limit for over a year and a half. To me, that suggests a high potential for trouble though various papers have yet to make a definitive link between drive longevity and disk drive temperature.
Outside of some SSD drives and HBA controllers, 60*C+ temperatures make me nervous. But my NAS also sounds like a Concorde on takeoff due to all the fans
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Yikes, over 60 degrees Celsius? That’s not even “that’s bad” territory, it’s “vendor nopes out of the warranty” bad.
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