Mooglestiltzkin's Build Log: Truenas build recommendation am5 2024?

Not that this invalidates your choice, but I did want to mention

For 25 gigabit PCIE gen3 is still fine, the hardware exists. The dual port 25 gigabit card would have roughly 60 gigabit of bus bandwidth in a x8 slot.

And a single 100 gigabit port the math still checks out fine with x16 cards

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Definitely Silverstone design team at the best of its worst, if you see what I mean…

Noctua NH-D12L or D9L, as already mentioned.
NH-L12S will fit, but blows downwards on the motherboard. That’s good when you have intake from the side panel and want to cool VRMs, DIMMs and other components alongside the CPU; that does not fit the front-to-back airflow model of your 4U.
Anyway, now you know the figure to look for in specifications. Use that tall Scythe cooler in a desktop build.

Not sure why you’re so set on this Gen2 10GTek NIC in the first place.
There’s plenty of affordable Intel, Chelsio and Solarflare NICs on the second-hand/refurbished market. And even some nicely priced XXV710 or T6225 for @Stux to play with 25G at home. :wink:

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ill gift it to my bro. maybe he needs it :sweat_smile: early christmas present :rofl:

i just use what works. tried tested (i already got 2 of these, happy with them). within my budget and also available and i dont have to try wade through where to get these other things x-x;

the part i ordered sfp+ 10g pcie cost $43.82 USD in total. seemed alright. and also i know it works :sweat_smile:

Limitation of CPU cooler
Height w/ expansion card retainer: 130mm
Height w/o expansion card retainer: 148mm

the one u suggested for the Noctua NH-D12L

145 mm

what is expansion card retainer? :thinking: do i need that? sorry confused.

*mis -saw

regardless it will fit :sweat_smile: sorry im tired, too stressed

nice video by the way. they demonstrate a side by side comparison to show the size difference between cpu cooler

actually i thought so as well initially. but salazar was using it, so thought it was fine. because he installed it on the same case.

thought i did. but guess i got too careless, my bad :sob:

*update

ordered the NH-D12L :blush: oof the noctua cost more than the scythe. but at least it fits so. but it does feel similar to when you’re buying an apple (you’re mostly paying a lil extra for the brand. noctua’s reputation is too good that it has a premium price attached :sweat_smile: thats why i usually go scythe since u get a good fan for a better price. they tend to fly under the radar despite being a good cooler imho)

https://noctua.at/en/nh-d12l/specification

It’s about the NVMe, and being able to break 4GB/s per SSD, at least in my use case

:thinking:

spotted this, maybe you would find it useful

i checked the price for the card, $700 :grimacing:

thats all i needed to know before i walked away and stuck to my 10g setup :rofl: (and that wasn’t particularly cheap when u added the cost for the network switch, transceivers , sfp+pcie card, etc). it took me a while to slowly get to 10g then to fiber (to try out. i even got a dac cable to test out with as well. i even got a transceiver for 10g base t which i use for my eap-773 though it probably doesn’t receive 10g speeds for wifi7 at least not on this wireless ap i’m sad to report :sob: i used a samsung s24 ultra as client for wifi7 local speed testing)

… homelab is a very expensive hobby. it’s a poison :rofl:

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good news. seems the seller is amenable to allowing a return/refund for the scythe cpu cooler after i convinced them it really was an honest mistake. also i have a mail office nearby which i’ve used before for returning packages so the process should be easy.

also i guess this helps though i doubt this qualifies

so it’s nice of them to allow it. i did watch youtube talk about people abusing returns and restock for online shopping,

but i don’t do any of that… so i understand why the sellers are like that sometimes… it’s not necessarily because they are being cut throat.

glad things worked out :blush:

so no early christmas present :rofl:

did i make a mistake getting 7600 over 7500f?

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/17hhtwb/7500f_vs_7600/

:thinking:

*i think i did ok

https://www.reddit.com/r/PHbuildapc/comments/1alugxu/ryzen_5_7500f_with_no_gpu/

as i thought the 7500f didnt have a igpu. the 7600 does. only reason is to connect it to monitor so i can do the bios and truenas setup and that’s all.

so for those not having this specific use case, then it’s no wonder it’s doing well

iGPUs can be good for transcoding, and if not that, they allow a performant windows vm too.

Not sure about AMD iGPUs specifically though.

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but its not exactly a performant one

https://www.reddit.com/r/realAMD/comments/xotixu/ryzen_7000_igpu_impressive_yet_disappointing/

but i didnt buy it for gaming on that igpu hehe :blush:

Honestly im just really happy it finally has a basic igpu. Really useful for a lot of situations.

Not just that but it has h.254/265 encode/decode, and AV1 decode. That might sound like table stakes but it’s important if you’re aiming to build an HTPC or something like it.

i think i read somewhere the 7000 series igpus are different from the ones before (like the 5000 G series). where igpu cpus impacted cpu performance, but not the 7000 series due to how they designed it. i dont have a source to link, but its what i read somewhere.

some confusion about the psu

the compatibility says

seasonic Focus GX750

Thats what i ordered.

But there is another model Seasonic Focus 750GX ATX 3.0

its similarly named but the ATX 3.0 is not mentioned.

So is the ATX 3.0 seasonic compatible for the motherboard or not? bit confused.

The form factor for the psu says ATX/EPS

Fairly confident in saying that the performance delta won’t be as much as you’d think it would. Not trying to be a pain, just trying to save you some hard earned money xD

Reading directly from one of these optane drives (not taking into consideration the file system) to RAM:

root@prod[/mnt]# dd if=/dev/nvme3n1 of=/dev/null bs=1M status=progress
402204393472 bytes (402 GB, 375 GiB) copied, 158 s, 2.5 GB/s^C

Reading from 4 of those same drives in a 2 vdev 2 way ZFS mirror:

root@prod[/mnt]# dd if=/dev/zvol/optane_vm/no_compression/100g of=/dev/null bs=1M status=progress
104082702336 bytes (104 GB, 97 GiB) copied, 29 s, 3.6 GB/s
102400+1 records in
102400+1 records out
107374247936 bytes (107 GB, 100 GiB) copied, 31.863 s, 3.4 GB/s

4x as many disks = ~125% performance improvement over a RAW single drive .

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High-Speed Windows Client Performance Tuning - Resources - TrueNAS Community Forums

You may find this equally interesting :stuck_out_tongue:

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Someone out there (who shall no be named) made videos about losing all his data to a badly designed ZFS pool—several times. And also to adding holes to a motherboard so it fits better in a case… :thinking:
So I would not blindly believe that something is a good idea just because someone made a video about in on YouTube.

With a 7500F, again, you’d need a dGPU with your consumer motherboard, or go for a server motherboard with IPMI (B650D4U, MC13-LE0/LE1, etc.).

5000G and before have Vega iGPU (monolithic die only). 7000 and above have a Navi(2) iGPU integrated in the redisigned I/O die.

Why do you bother about ATX 3.0? This is only relevant for gamers with big, mean and power-hungry GPUs to be fed through ridiculously tiny connectors—you know, the ones which famously melt and burn if they are ever slightly misaligned, not pushed all the way through or bent too sharply… Great design. Thanks but no thanks!

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i mean i just dont know which psu is supported for the mobo + chasis :sweat: im assuming the non 3.0 will work. that’s why i’m asking cauz i dont know :grimacing:

i understand this particular motherboard has a quirk. no pcie 5 for the gpu. but since i don’t plan to use a graphics card on that slot i thought it was ok?

But i figured if i get atx 3.0 psu, if later my desktop upgrades graphics that need it, i can swap the psu (my desktop uses a Seasonic focus plus 750w psu already non atx 3.0). Then that’s one less thing to buy in future. does that make sense

till now they still havent fixed that? :cry: so what’s happening with 12vhpwr? r they gonna recall it and come out with a atx 4.0 ?

I’ve got to tell you, I had to wipe the drool from my mouth looking at some of these systems. While I have absolutely no use for a massive system, it would still be nice to play with them and just rebuild another NVMe low power backup server. Heck, I might just do that, but it may not be NVMe. Might be two 18TB drives in a Mirror on my old Supermicro MBD-A1SAM-2550F-O uATX motherboard. Okay, maybe neither, my eye is on a 3D Printer. Still flipping that coin.

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yeah thats why i also ask here for 2nd opinion. and im using multiple sources, not just one :face_with_monocle:

Here is another new diy nas builder like me

watching what he did, and what the comments are saying about any mishaps

i was also in the same spot. off the shelf nas with some jank nas os. now i’m trying to move on to a diy nas using truenas (favourite nas os of choice). So this will be new for me also :blush:

yeah joe, stay strong. dont fall for the poison, ur stuff is probably just fine. for myself, my backups are not great for transfer speeds. using this as an opportunity to replace my main nas, and relegate the qnap as a backup.

in some of my other nas storage they are filled with 2tb and 4tb , some dying. i’m gonna be tossing those. no point backing up to a nas filled with some bad drives in them :grimacing: not worth it. (my proper backup has working drives of course. but backup speed is slow)

the 12tb x4 drives arrived.

they are very well packaged. but i still need to check them for good reason :sweat:

i scan the qr code, it’s legit. but when i check warranty it said

“please contact the place of purchase”

“This product was originally sold as part of a larger system. Please contact the system manufacturer or your place of purchase for warranty support”

reddit says this about it
https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/v80r35/newegg_seagate_exos_18tb_sold_with_no_manufacture/

but the seller said it’s 5 year warranty international.

In the seller webpage it says

" Seagate EXOS X12 12TB(ST12000NM0127) is the big sales channel version."

When i checked the drive, the original static protection bag was open. Some of the drive though look new, i saw some dust markings.

I think they are recertified. I knew that going in but there were good reviews so i took a chance x-x;

tested 2 of these drives so far smart short, both no errors. now trying a long test.

Would recommend burning in with badblocks & then another smart long afterwards

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do u mean wipe drive?

i usually just use the ui options in truenas. there 3 options.

smart short, long, and there is wipe drive.

is badblocks burn = wipe drive?

i tried googling it said this

https://www.reddit.com/r/truenas/comments/1cv9n1x/hard_drive_testing/

I ran a few passes of badblocks (wrote all zeroes, wrote all ones, wrote 0101, wrote 1010…), then I ran SMART tests. Took like 2 weeks, but I was able to confirm that every bit was good. I did have one bad drive.

2 weeks? :grimacing: